Few people get to be so damned by their own words and deeds and still remain in their positions of power until the assume room temperature.
I’m sorry for his family, but not for the “unindicted co-conspirator“.
Abscam:
Maligning American Marines:
Statements Later Determined to be Untrue By The Proper Authorities:
Then Reduced to What Remains For a Person With No Remaining Honor… Just Making Shit Up:
I hope that SOB is nice and crispy right about now…
Condolences to the family, as you rightly state, but that asswhole can burn for eternity…
Ah yes, G, your condolences are so gently delivered. LOL
Care to volunteer to give the eulogy?
Fuck him, and anybody who called him a friend. Hope his ass is in 350 degree grease right about now.
I agree Dick, what a terrible person.
Black is white Imperial:
TY for being nice to me on that Rutherfords blog.
Its ok. R’s sense of logic and reason suffers from really bizzarre disconnects. Christianity and Sarah Palin both make him start sputtering and sounding like ten different kinds of fool.
I’d like to know why conservatives and particularly those who call themselves Christian have so little compassion. Isn’t there some mourning time allowed before you start piling on?
I’m sorry for his family No, you’re not. Don’t be a hypocrite. His family shouldn’t have to read this within 24 hours of his passing. It’s not like he was Mohammed Atta.
This from a man who just penned and published possibly the most sanctimonious, hate filled obsession concerning Sarah Palin I’ve read yet?
A post that actually brings Sarah Palin’s Downs baby as center of attention? Questions her love for the child? Treats Trig as a political prop? With a content from some smug shrew who personifies the harpies Ann Coulter correctly referenced in using their dead husbands as propaganda after 9/11? Epitomizes liberalism in its lowest form?
What could possibly make you worthy to judge the merits or bring condemnation of anything Rutherford?
Tex you’ve become a master at a certain brand of twisted logic. Anyone who discusses racism is a racist. Anyone who discusses the exploitation of the mentally challenged is exploiting them. It’s a cute brand of circular logic that allows you to not address the argument at hand. Unfortunately, anyone with half a brain can see past the smokescreen.
What say you Tex about Jack Murtha? Care to add your bile to the thread?
R, sometimes I think you wouldn’t recognize a clue if it beat you up and stole your lunch money.
I can and do feel compassion for his family. No one likes to lose a spouse, a parent, or a grandparent. But I also cannot lose sight of the fact that a person may be and frequently is a different person in those roles then they are in their “public” persona.
His public persona was dispicable, and we do not do society or polity a service by sugar-coating it. Maybe you should take closer note, R, that I kept comment to a minimum, and let him speak for himself. Abscam alone should have ended his career. His comments on the Marines were slanderous, and unconscionable (and the conspicous lack of an apology was even more shameful), and his some of his other activities damaging and disrespectful to the institution in which he served.
As for his family having to read my post, I suspect you give me more credit than I deserve.
I am not a hypocrite, GOOD RIDDANCE to a piece of SH*T.
Hope your laptop recovers soon. Maybe the BSOD was just karma for this nasty post?
I gather that there must be a code in the military that you never speak ill lest you expose the “family” to criticism … never be disloyal. While two data points does not a trend make, I notice an interesting similarity in the hostility toward Murtha and John Kerry, two Vietnam vets who have been critical of military behavior.
Back in my corporate days I had a manager who was a Nam vet. I made an offhand comment about the war one day and noticed his pulse start to rise. Since I knew relatively little about the subject at the time, I shut up immediately. But the incident taught me that the Vietnam war set a sh*t load of people on edge. There is something about fighting an unwise war (Iraq, Iraq, anyone?) that puts everyone on the defensive. Veterans of unwise wars don’t get quite the hero’s welcome that a vet of let’s say WWII might get.
In Murtha’s 37 years, he may not have been a saint of a legislator but somehow I think his about-face on Iraq has some folks in this thread more than a little pissed off. I think for that alone he deserves some kudos. It takes a strong man to admit when he’s wrong.
R, he can criticize the war all he wants. Harry Reid did the same, and all it accomplished was proving he was and is a dolt.
What makes Murtha’s remarks so beyond the pale is that he declared Marines guilty of murdering civilians without proof and before the investigation had been completed. And when Marines were later exhonerated, he remained silent. Only legislative priviledge exempted him from being sued for slander, and as he was once a Marine himself, he knew how important the concept of Honor is to Marines. It isn’t a word; it’s a lifestyle. His actions demostrated a lack of honr while impugning that of others.
Critical of military behavior? They’re both fucking liars!!! John “Christmas in Cambodia” Kerry has been exposed how many times? And John “Haditha Marines” Murtha was proved just as jacked up. These guys threw vets under the bus for political gain. Fuck both of them.
R, shut up. You know shit about war and what it is like to come home from one. Vietnam vets were spit on by you and the left. It was Dems, who completely removed the decisions of the war from the military and sent these guys over to fester on the vine while they were busy fucking Ms. Monroe.
It is no wonder that a vet would be sensitive to it since he’s had to deal with so much from your ilk.
G, sometimes you ARE truly a gorilla’s ass. I was 12 years old during the Paris Peace Accords so you can’t lay anything related to Nam on me.
My understanding is that Nam vets were spat upon by just about everyone. It’s one reason they are now a protected employment group.
And when did I say Vietnam vets SHOULDN’T be sensitive. I did say that it’s hard to be a vet of an unwise war. Despite your military expertise, there are a sh*tload of folks who say the Vietnam war was a bad idea. We lost the war and guess what? Communism still proved to be empty and it died on its own. Perhaps more evidence of lives wasted for no good reason.
P.S. I guess you hate Walter Cronkite too.
Gorilla,
Since Rutherford believes it would be hard to be a Vet to returning from an “unjust war”, and being our returning Vets from Iraq have been treated for the most part heroes, expect from the Rutherford crowd in which they are considered mercenaries, murders, imperialists, and general thugs, you should congratulate Rutherford on his new found revelation.
It appears Rutherford finally made admission that the Iraq war must be JUST – much like the proverbial blind squirrel and his found nut.
OH while I’m here, I guess I ought to comment on the actual videos … in particular the one that BiW purports disproves Murtha’s claim.
BiW … are you shittin’ me???
The video states that charges were dismissed against someone accused of not investigating the killings. The video further stated that one of the alleged killers was still pending trial. WTF did you prove by posting that video? Not a damn thing.
What you did prove by posting the Murtha video was that Jack never sat in judgment on these men. On the contrary he made every excuse he could for some abominable behavior. And sorry BiW, if I have the word of a nine year old girl who saw her Dad killed and a soldier who said he didn’t’ do it, I’d have to think long and hard before believing the soldier.
Like I said before, you guys are just pissed that a military vet called out the Iraq for what it was … the wrong war to fight.
“As of June 17, 2008, six defendants had their cases dropped and one was found not guilty. The exception is SSgt. Wuterich, whose trial date has been postponed.[12] At least three officers have been officially reprimanded for failing to properly initially report and investigate the killings.”
And he isn’t on trial for MURDER, R. I know. They carry guns, and that makes them scary to you, but that doesn’t excuse Jack Murtha’s remarks, R.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings
BiW In the interest of understanding the truth, could you shed some light on a couple of things?
First many of those whose charges were dropped got immunity for testimony so how does that exonerate anyone? (I’m just using the Wiki source you gave me.)
Second, help me understand the following seemingly conflicting info: “On August 9, 2007, all charges against Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt and Capt. Randy Stone were dropped. On October 19, Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt’s commanding officer decided the charges should be lowered to involuntary manslaughter, reckless endangerment and aggravated assault.” So I’m confused. Were the charges against Sharratt dropped or not?
Third, “On August 2, 2006, Marine Corps staff sergeant Frank D. Wuterich, who led the accused squad, filed suit for libel and invasion of privacy. The lawsuit is currently pending. The filing states Murtha “tarnished the Marine’s reputation by telling news organizations in May that the Marine unit cracked after a roadside bomb killed one of its members and that the troops ‘killed innocent civilians in cold blood.’ Murtha also said repeatedly that the incident was ‘covered up.’ ” As of June 2008, Wuterich is charged with nine counts of manslaughter.” (emphasis mine).
So is Wuterich still awaiting a trial for manslaughter or not. And are you making the legal distinction between manslaughter and murder? Just so I understand where you’re coming from.
Is the conclusion to be drawn from all this that the marines shot up civilian residences in the honest belief they were dealing with the enemy? Again, I am asking a question, not being sarcastic.
You’re not telling me that a Marine never did anything dishonorable are you? (I mean a marine other than Murtha.)
R, when did it become correct and honorable for a member of Congress to declare someone guilty when they didn’t have all the facts, and the proper investigation had not been conducted? This is the Chicago Messiah™’s “I dont’ have all the facts but the police acted stupidly” moment turned up to 11. And seeing as it was untrue, and but for Murtha’s ability to claim Congressional priviledge for his cowardly (yes, I said it) attack, he could have and would have been sued blind.
Instead of letting the American Justice system work for our Marines (a system that you favor giving non-citizens who have tried to kill Americans), he declared them guilty in order to gain support for his anti-war stance. Even if he had never been a Marine, it would be deplorable, but the fact that he had been one makes it worse, because by leveling the charge, he implied that the Marines in question did not meet the standard that he himself was once called on to uphold. Its a dangerous place to go without proof, and like the IEDs used by the real murderers, it blew up in his face. I can’t and won’t feel sorry for that.
R,
Murtha claimed that the Marines were in such a position that they were unable to determine right from wrong. That the war was so immoral that they were reduced to the cold blooded murder of women and children.
That’s horseshit. Regardless of whether the war was a good idea, a bad idea, well executed or poorly executed, the concept of honor would hold that the Marines are responsible for their actions.
He condemned them, and then even denied them the chance to be ordinary murderers. Oh, no, they were victims of the EVIL BUSH REGIME.
Again, that’s horseshit. Whether or not the Haditha Marines were guilty or innocent became almost secondary, as his statement denigrated EVERY Marine. His statement implied that NO Marine could make a moral judgment under those circumstances. And I’ll tell you this, while many Marines may fail to live up to the concept of honor, the institution as a whole strives greatly to achieve it. What Murtha was saying was that the Corps couldn’t even TRY to live up to its ideals. Just because the war was unpopular? Pure. Unadulterated. Horseshit.
Murtha claimed that the Marines were in such a position that they were unable to determine right from wrong. That the war was so immoral that they were reduced to the cold blooded murder of women and children.
That’s horseshit
Exactly, X. Murtha was a RAT BASTARD. End of story.
It wasn’t until today that I fully recognized the vicious and sick SOB Rutherford really is. He is out of the mold of Maher, and Behar, and Keith Olbermann. I suppose I should just answer by stating “it depends on what the word is, is?” It passes for profundity in Rutherford’s circle of friends.
For anyone here not understanding the consistent fallacies of Rutherford’s board, the outright and misleading propaganda, his own form of circular reasoning, the sickness of obsession in attempting marginalizing Sarah Palin (at one time reserved for George Bush), I do invite them to peruse Rutherford’s blog. And if I indeed do twist Rutherford’s words, by all means please condemn me for my egregious methods right here.
As you read his blog, I hope you will note that Rutherford’s mentioning of let’s say the recent Sarah Palin I mentioned is based on the accusation of a mother using her Downs child for personal gain – with the accompanying Obama troll letter and a little belittling humor from Colbert. Really terrific stuff. Trial, judge, jury and verdict in the Rutherford Lawson world.
Did I mention Rutherford has stated on more than one occasion black men can’t be racist because they hold no power (paraphrased but correct)? I dare him to repeat it here. Did I really say Obama’s comments where themselves racist about the Henry Louis Gates fiasco, or that many blacks are racist? tsk tsk…
And to the fact that I don’t address the issues at hand? Well, I’ll let any guest be the judge. Ironic charges from a man unable to even bother to address my many questions.
But before I leave, there is two more accusations that I will now like to attribute to Rutherford: (1) A liar; (2) a Harvard educated narcissist with an overinflated value of self.
You be the judge.
Rutherford, just wait til you get hit by a bus.
I’ll say all sorts of warm fuzzy shit about you like, “Fuck him, that pussy was a communist sympathizer and the only good commie is a dead one.”
Thanks Dick. Not everyone has the privilege to get a preview of their eulogy prior to shedding the mortal coil.
Another one bites the dust. Patrick Pill Popping Kennedy choosing not to seek re-election. Seems his father’s death was more than he could take.
Boo hoo!
And good riddance hypocrite!
Exactly what makes Patrick Kennedy a hypocrite? Just curious.
Seeing Kennedy bow out is interesting. I guess with daddy’s demise, he can finally pursue that long envied career on broadway…
One of Rutherford’s heroes and almost nightly Queef Ogremann guest goes into meltdown mode on MSNBC and has to be cut off: (this is great stuff!)
http://storyballoon.org/videos/lawrence-odonnell-nutty-meltdown-on-mark-theissen-during-morning-joe/
The lib party of Marxists is incredibly close to collective CVA. Let’s push them some more!
It’s funny how two people can see the same thing differently. I was so proud of Crazy Larry. I was rather shocked that Joe cut him off. I guess for either “side” it was fun TV.
Well of course you were proud Rutherford. Rudeness, screaming over guests, emotional outbursts, nastiness, childish antics, and bullying are all virtues of the Left. Larry provides the caricature for you and the Islamic radicals who share your worth and opinion of how to debate. I’m surprised you didn’t help rush the stage at UCI this week.
Why would you be any different, being I’ve never met a bigger hack?
——————–
On a side note, since I refuse to frequent your blog anymore due to its pretentious nature, BIC will either find himself the benefactor or condemned soul depending on outlook with respect to my commentary concerning you.
Mmmm Tex, doesn’t that sound like cowardice? Why clutter someone else’s blog with trash talk about me when you can do it in my house.
It’s a shame that you don’t wanna come by anymore, especially since I just called upon your medical expertise to weigh in on a question over there.
Then again, Rabbit without the medical training, answered on your behalf. Probably the same answer I would’ve gotten from you. LOL
Nothing to do with cowardice. Consider it spite.
Go write another post where you can trash Palin’s family and make sure to include the baby.
Ah, surprise surprise! The tenured professor down in Alabama who went on a rampage when not granted tenure, appears to share something in common with Benevolent Barack.
From ratemyprofessor.com, one of her students couldn’t help but make this distinction of of Ms. Bishop’s character.
This class was great. Bishop makes the class interesting by talking about her research and her friends research. That speaker she had for class was hard to understand but smart. She expects alot and you need to come to every class and study. She is hot but she tries to hide it.And she is a socalist but she only talks about it after class.
Yes We Can! Now can you imagine the liberal outrage on the insufferable MSNBC if instead of socialist, you substituted the word Conservative?
There is nothing phonier than a crazed Barack follower claiming goodness.
Nothing thrills me more than to stumble upon fan mail. “that Rutherford’s blog”? Wow, that hurt, themadjewess. I didn’t think I’d treated you that badly.
And BiW, thanks for explaining away my approach. If I ever need legal counsel, I shall solicit your help. You obviously have already settled on an insanity defense.