On Tuesday, 70% of Oklahoma voters passed an amendment called State Question 755. This amends Article I, Section 7 of the Oklahoma Constitution, which currently reads:
§ 1. Courts in which judicial power vested.
The judicial power of this State shall be vested in Senate, sitting as a Court of Impeachment, a Supreme Court, the Court of Criminal Appeals, the Court on the Judiciary, the State Industrial Court, the Court of Bank Review, the Court of Tax Review, and such intermediate appellate courts as may be provided by statute, District Courts, and such Boards, Agencies and Commissions created by the Constitution or established by statute as exercise adjudicative authority or render decisions in individual proceedings. Provided that the Court of Criminal Appeals, the State Industrial Court, the Court of Bank Review and the Court of Tax Review and such Boards, Agencies and Commissions as have been established by statute shall continue in effect, subject to the power of the Legislature to change or abolish said Courts, Boards, Agencies, or Commissions. Municipal Courts in cities or incorporated towns shall continue in effect and shall be subject to creation, abolition or alteration by the Legislature by general laws, but shall be limited in jurisdiction to criminal and traffic proceedings arising out of infractions of the provisions of ordinances of cities and towns or of duly adopted regulations authorized by such ordinances.
SQ 755 adds the following language to the Section:
C. The Courts provided for in subsection A of this section, when exercising their judicial authority, shall uphold and adhere to the law as provided in the United States Constitution, the Oklahoma Constitution, the United States Code, federal regulations promulgated pursuant thereto, established common law, the Oklahoma Statutes and rules promulgated thereto, and if necessary the law of another state of the United States provided the law of the other state does not include Sharia Law, in making judicial decisions. The courts shall not look into the legal precepts of other nations and cultures. Specifically, the courts shall not consider international law or Sharia Law. The provisions of this subsection shall apply to all cases before the respective courts including, but not limited to, cases of first impression.
Of course, it didn’t take long for the usual suspects to decide that this was a problem.
Salon has reported that the three main prongs of CAIR’s attack are as follows:
The Establishment Clause
The First Amendment directs all government bodies to “make no law respecting the establishment of religion.” This measure violates that basic principle of American law and governance by specifically targeting one faith and one religious community.
Separation of Powers
Our federal system and our state system is in part governed by the concept of separation of powers. One branch of government cannot restrict what another branch of government can consider in terms of doing its job — in this case, deciding cases.
Supremacy Clause
International law refers to the conduct of the relationships between sovereign nations. … International law is, according to the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution, the law of the United States of America.
And:
How will this measure negatively impact Oklahomans of all faiths?
It will prevent Oklahoma courts from implementing international agreements, honoring international arbitrations, honoring major international human rights treaties, honoring marriages and divorces from other countries, and will cost jobs by sending the message that contracts between Oklahoma companies and international partners will not be enforceable. Oklahoma could become the only state in the nation incapable of enforcing international business law.
Let’s take each of these in order, shall we?
The Establishment Clause:
“Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” -Amendment I, United States Constitution
While someone looking at the plain language of the clause might say “The state of Oklahoma is not Congress”, the Fourteenth Amendment, through continued application by the United States Supreme Court, gradually brought the Bill of Rights to apply to actions by the various states. That said, the question then becomes “Does this amendment to the Oklahoma Constitution establish a religion?” Clearly, it does not. The remaining question is “Does it interfere with the free exercise thereof?” That answer is “no”.
While litigant Muneer Awad claims:
“The apprehension of this uncertainty is an injury itself,” he said.
he ignores the fact that making a will is not an inherently religious exercise, and therefore even if making a will with directives subject to such clauses is an act of faith for him, as he seems to be claiming, it coincides with a non-religious act that is subject to state law. It is also a facetious claim for an attorney to make, as he can remove all uncertainty by listing the directives, rather than incorporating them by reference to a religious tome. If he were to do so, even with a reference to the Koran, as long as all the other formalities of the execution of it were in accordance with state law, and none of its directives violated state law, the court could enforce the result without having to resort to reference to the Koran. There is also the fact that no person has a right to go to the courts seeking to have them enforce the petitioner’s own religious laws, especially when they intersect with people who do not share their faith. (And as a practical matter, if the will was otherwise lawfully executed and gave his executor/personal representative non-intervention powers, the courts would not oversee how his last wishes were given effect anyway, and if his estate was insolvent, which would require court intervention, there would be nothing to do but settle with his creditors out of what existed of his estate anyway, a process dictated by state law. )
Every story I read indicates that the concern underlying this arose from the trend of other western nations allowing Sharia Law to be enforced by Sharia Courts within their borders, and a recent New Jersey case in which a woman sued her husband for repeatedly raping her, and the trial court found him innocent on the basis of his belief that he was fulfilling his obligation as a husband under Sharia Law. The ruling was overturned by an appellate court, but the fact that a system of law other than one duly passed by the state was not only considered, but determined to be a basis for bypassing state law should send chills down the back of anyone who believes in equal justice under the law.
Separation of Powers
This is also a poor argument, the gist of it being that one branch of government cannot limit what another can consider in the execution of its duties.
The weakness in this assertion is that the Oklahoma legislature, much like the Federal Congress, can determine what the courts will have jurisdiction over, and the amendment, at its core, removes Sharia Law and International Law from the jurisdiction of the state courts of Oklahoma.
The actual doctrine itself is not a separate provision of the Constitution, but it is an implied one under a system of federalism. As the SCOTUS has sometimes based rulings on the doctrine, but has at the same time allowed the erosion of actual federalism by permitting the expansion of the power of the federal government, I can see the Court perhaps ruling that the amendment does violate the separation of powers doctrine, but at the same time, I find it more likely that they will decline any attempt to dictate to an individual state how it determines jurisdictional limits for its own judiciary branch.
Supremacy Clause
“2. This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United states, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State to shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.” - Article VI, Section 2, United States Constitution.
Does the amendment violate the Supremacy Clause? In order to determine the answer, one must first determine what the state meant when it used the term “International Law”.
The language on the ballot defines the state’s use of the term:
“International law is also known as the law of nations. It deals with the conduct of international organizations and independent nations, such as countries, states and tribes. It deals with their relationship with each other. It also deals with some of their relationships with persons.
The law of nations is formed by the general assent of civilized nations. Sources of international law also include international agreements, as well as treaties.”
Neither the amendment itself or the section of the Constitution that it amends contain any definition of the term.
As an attorney, I can see two methods which might be used to attack this amendment. The first is couched in the admission that I have not read the Oklahoma Constitution from start to finish, and therefore, I cannot say if there is a definition section. In the absence of one, I might argue with a straight face that it was nice of the state to define it on the ballot, but the failure to do it in the body of the document amended means that there is no precise and objective definition of “international law” for the courts to be able to recognize as inapplicable in matters before them.
The second method is that if I accept that treaties are international law, rather than agreements between nations that carry the force of law when properly executed (and ratified, when necessary), then this amendment is facially invalid. However, a court might read the amendment through the lens of “The courts shall not look into the legal precepts of other nations and cultures.”, and rule that the term “International Law” is defined by this clause, leaving the issue of treaties unmolested by this state action, and therefore the law could be ruled Constitutional.
Given what I read in the various articles, and in the state’s own documents, it seems to me that the latter would be consistent with what appears to be the concern they are addressing, that being the increasing propensity of some Justices on the SCOTUS and Judges on lower federal courts to look to and consider foreign law when deciding matters in purely domestic cases. I think it is a legitimate concern, and I think that any legislature concerned for the integrity of its own laws is perfectly justified to act in a pre-emptive manner with regard to both these issues.




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Nice job, BiW. Funny how it’s all about freedom of religion, but only here, not in countries that exclusively follow Sharia law.
Something tells me the islam supporting drones wont touch this one.
Glad you found this one of interest BiW
I didn’t find interest in it. Yellowdawg put up an aimless post on it, Greychin pimped it at Rutherford’s, Rutherford read it, and specifically asked Tigre and I to comment about it.
Excellent assessment!
My little state (actually big state/fewer people) continues to show its superior wisdom, as indicated first by it rejecting candidate Barack Obama for President by a vote of 2-1, with the county count being McCain 77, Obama 0 in the 2008 Presidential election.
Backwards? I’d call that prescient.
If I may speak for the vast majority of Oklahomans, we have had a few minor skirmishes down here about people hiding behind their religious customs concerning driver’s licenses, demands for halal food, Ramadan breaks, and the like – nothing major. Yet…
However, there seems to be a growing anti-government sentiment prevalent among many leaders in the Tulsa Islamic community. In addition a few years back, the Islamic Society threatened one of their own flock about writing to the Tulsa World and condemning support of international terrorism.
http://www.batesline.com/archives/2006/11/tulsa-muslim-wh.html
For example, here we have Alison Moore, spokeswoman for the Islamic Society of Tulsa, praising Anwar al-Awlaki. Great, hey? Check about the 5 minute mark.
Demonstrating our profound tolerance and humanity, SQ 755 was necessary to prevent an imminent beat down. I think America would find Oklahomans have less tolerance for political correctness, bad mouthing America, and threats than much of America.
Consider SQ 755 nipping a growing problem in the bud and a notice to Ruth Bader Gingsburg that we don’t believe courts should look to the law of other countries for guidance when deciding cases.
Our Constitution works just fine.
BIC,
I’ve got one stuck in the queue. Thanks…
Tex
All of this could be regarded as another excellent example of the attempts (many successful) to infiltrate and weaken the pillars that support American society. Sharia law is inseparable from the total Islamic culture, which makes no distinction between church and state – indeed, the two are interdependent as of necessity. Some European states have allowed the implementation of sharia law to override their judicial systems and are rapidly discovering what a drastic mistake that is. The legal arguments are designed to obfuscate the main purpose of the attack, which is sow dissent and confusion, further weakening America’s dependence upon the rule of law.
They are well practiced at being cultural sappers. They probe and probe and probe until they find a weak point, and then they storm through such gaps. Europe is a great example.
I don’t intend to see “no go zones” for US authorities and rescue workers in our cities. Nor do I intend to have our courts make legal decisions based upon laws created by bodies that we have had nothing to do with. The minute that happens, we are no longer citizens, but subjects, and any government that would attempt it abdicates its sovereignty and legitimacy.
You surely have illuminated the dangers. It is unfortunate that these negatives are precisely what appeals to a particular segment of America, those who agitate for chaos under the guise of an “open and fair society” – the goal being to destroy the stability of America so that a “savior” will then offer despotism as the only possible solution to preserve our country.
Thanks for addressing this, BiW.
It is obvious that when you write you take a great amount of care applying your knowledge in the law and partnering it decency and discernment.
Kudos, Brother.
BiW,
I posted it on the previous thread. I thought that is how you came across it.
What was the drone’s response to the law and the lawsuit? Do I need to ask or was it typical drone rhetoric?
Which drone? The one who can think, or the one that can not?
Any of them. I cant really tell the difference. And besides, by being a drone, by default it cant think for itself. Thats why they are drones.
One of the men branded his victim a ‘white bitch’ when she resisted, while a second smirked: ‘I’ve used you and abused you.’
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/11/06/british-born-pakistani-sexual-predators-jailed-for-raping-white-girls-as-young-as-12/#comments
Multiculturalism rocks!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks, BisW. This is a great summation of the way Shari’a is being snaked into our system.
@ BIC great post. You say in a comment you didn’t have an interest and put forth a great piece. It’s a wonder what a post would look like if you really really had a stake in it. Wow!
@Tex…Our Constitution works just fine. True and I think you and yours have done a sound and harmless thing here. It’s kinda crazy to think the act fails to actually protect OK citizens who are Muslims,in fact it actually assures their legal rights of the state and the USA.
“Muslims in Oklahoma do a phenomenal amount of outreach,” she said. “It’s not on us anymore. There are people out there who still believe Obama is a Muslim.”…
Horror of horrors! How could anyone get that idea?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/in-wake-of-anti-sharia-vote-muslims-in-oklahoma-claim-victim-status.html
LOL
And as for whether or not Obama is a Muslim, her analysis proceeds from his actions, not from empty speculation about his inner dispositions. If you wonder how anyone could have gotten the crazy idea that Obama is a Muslim, which I am not sure Pamela believes or considers an important question in any case, consider this list of Obama’s actions, which she published last June:
March 2009, Obama declares the “war on terror” is over despite a dramatic increase in jihad war ops.
March 2009, he floats the idea that he will talk to violent, genocidal Hamas.
March 2009, he demands, recruits and insists that more Muslim Americans work in the Obama administration.
April 2009, Obama tells Europe to admit Islamic Turkey into EU, much to the consternation of the Europeans.
April 2009, Obama demands non-Muslims respect Islam (despite our differences) in a speech in Turkey.
April 2009, Obama in a speech from Turkey: “We are not a Christian nation.”
April 2009, Dalia Mogahed, the first hijab-clad senior adviser to Obama on Muslim affairs says in an interview with terrorist- and jihad-supporting Sheik Yusuf Qaradawi’s website, “Many have claimed that terrorists have ‘hijacked Islam’. I disagree. I think Islam is safe and thriving in the lives of Muslims around the world. What the terrorists have been allowed to take over are Muslim grievances.”
In April 2009, Obama lays groundwork for a partnership with Hamas.
May 2009, Obama promises to offer his “personal commitment” to Muslims.
May 2009, Obama calls America “one of the largest Muslim countries on the planet.”
June 2009, Obama invites the Muslim Brotherhood, violent global jihadist group whose sole objective is a universal caliphate, to his speech to the ummah (Muslim community) in Cairo.
June 2009, Obama makes a stunning speech to the Muslim world from Al Azhar University in Cairo. It defies explanation.
July 2009, Obama reaches out to the violent jihadists of Hezb’allah.
July 2009, Obama creates a new office at the State department, Outreach to the Worldwide Muslim community, reporting directly to Hillary Clinton.
July 2009 State Department Welcomes Hamas Mouthpiece, Al-Quds TV, to DC to Film Propaganda.
Obama promises to close GITMO.
Obama is rebuked when plans are revealed for CIA prosecutions for 911 interrogations: Seven Ex-chiefs of CIA Oppose Case Review: ALL Sign letter to Stop CIA Persecutions.
In July, Obama sanctions the brutal crackdown of those marching for freedom in Iran and sides with the mullahcracy. He stands silent about the Iranian regime’s mass executions, mass rape and murder.
July 2009, Obama plans to slash US nuclear arsenal.
September 2009. Bolton on Obama at the UN: “This is the most radical anti-Israel speech I can recall any president making” “I have to say I was very shaken by this speech.”
October 2009, Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund.
November 2009, Fort Hood Jihad Cover up: Obama Urges Congress To Put Off Fort Hood Probe, Warns Against Turning Tragedy Into “Political Theater.”
November 2009, Obama offers the Taliban control of the Kandahar, Helmand, Oruzgan, Kunar and Nuristan provinces, in return for a halt to the Taliban missile attacks on U.S. bases.
November 2009, Obama Reaches out to bloody Jihadis in the Philippines.
On Thanksgiving eve, Obama issues a special Hajj message to the world’s Muslims.
December 2009, Obama’s “Non-Religious” White House Christmas and No Christmas Gifts for his Kids.
February 2010, Obama names a Hafiz to the Organization of the Islamic Conference. “And as a hafiz of the Koran, [Hussain] is a respected member of the American Muslim community,” Obama said in his message to the Doha meeting, using the term for someone who has mastered and memorized the Muslim holy book.
February 2010, Obama cuts US space program, orders NASA to work with Muslim countries.
February 2010, covering up for jihadists in the White House.
Obama’s counter terrorism adviser, John Brennan, Involved in Obama Passport Breach.
March 2010, Obama Obsession with Islam: Calls ‘entrepreneurship summit’ with Muslims.
April 2010, Libyan Pres Gaddafi Praises Obama: “Barakeh Obama is friend” “He is of Muslim descent, his policy should be supported….”
May 2010, Obama’s Counterterrorism Adviser Calls Jihad “Legitimate Tenet of Islam.”
May 2010, White House Pro-Terrorism John Brennan Speechifies in Arabic, Equates Terrorists with Shoplifters, Lawmakers Call for his Firing.
June 2010, Obama equivocates on the jihad warship convoy (affectionately named a “flotilla” by the media): Obama “Expressed a Deep Regret Over Loss of [Jihadist] Life.”
June 2010, Obama Administration to Support Anti-Israel Resolution at UN.
But we know this is typical behavior of a “Real” Christian, right al-Faheed? BTW Still smearing me over on your blog like a typical coward?
Not at all,except for this comment I am committed to ignoring you.
Ahhhh since Tex called you out for it you stopped. Good for you al-Faheed.
“Like a surprising number of others across the Arab and Muslim world, Adel Hussein “is a one-time Marxist and nonbeliever who has turned to Islam, part of a new intellectual generation reshaping the religion.” “I benefited from Marx in both theory and practice,” Hussein told Shadid, “but now, Islam is my starting point and my framework.” That doesn’t mean he’s abandoned Marx, however. “Hussein, for instance, says his goals have not changed,” Shadid reported. “But he now sees Islam, through its ability to persuade and to mobilize, as the best tool.” In other words, Islam for Hussein is a means to an end, and the end is a Marxist world.”
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JZS/is_18_23/ai_n25011411/
Here is something else you can ignore al-Faheed since you rather live in your moderate bubble.
Barack Obama joined Muslim prayers at school, teacher says
The US President’s former grade three teacher said that Mr Obama – who was known as “Barry” when he attended the Menteng One school in Jakarta – studied the Koran and went to classes on Islam, despite the objections of Anne Dunham, a Roman Catholic.
The teacher’s recollections will add to speculation about Mr Obama’s links to Islam during his much-anticipated visit to Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim nation, as part of his ten-day tour of Asia.
His middle name, Hussein, and the fact that his stepfather was a Muslim, have combined to perpetuate rumours about Mr Obama’s religious leanings. The number of Americans who think that he is a Muslim has grown since his inauguration to one in five.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/barack-obama-joined-muslim-prayers-at-school-teacher-says/story-e6frg6so-1225949239614
Sounds like a muslim to me. What say you al-Faheed?
Fed Judge Blocks Anti-Sharia Law Amendment In Oklahoma
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/11/08/fed-judge-blocks-anti-sharia-law-amendment-in-oklahoma/
Clinton Appointee strikes another blow to freedom.
So al-Faheed,
When will our “Christian” “president” stop sucking up to the muslims long enough to condemn the massacre of Christians last week in Baghdad. Any idea coward?
I know you lurk al-Faheed but since the truth is never on your side, you wont answer. Its ok. Because if you are obsessed enough with me to smear me on your blog, you would prove me wrong here if you actually could. Enjoy your lurking wuss.
De Facto Shariah Law in America
By Janet Levy
Is the United States today a de facto shariah state? A close look at recent events points to some alarming conclusions about the tenets of shariah law taking hold in our once-proud constitutional republic and the unwitting, unequal application of existing U.S. laws. The result is that when it comes to religious expression, Muslims now enjoy more freedom of religion and speech under our Bill of Rights than non-Muslims. Equal protection under the laws of our country holds for Muslims far better than for non-Muslims. Several recent examples illustrate this point.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/11/de_facto_shariah_law_in_americ.html
Obama: “I’m So Glad To Meet an Indian Communist, I’m Told You’re Part of Political Mainstream Here”
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/glad-to-meet-an-indian-communist-said-obama-65314
Video From Iraqi Church After al-Qaeda Massacre
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/11/09/damon.iraq.inside.church.cnn
Odd that the “president” mentioned the 2nd year anniversary of the Mumbai massacre, but didnt mention the 1st anniversary of the Fort Hood terror attack or the slaughter of dozens of Christians in a Baghdad church. Any idea al-Faheed? I know you are lurking.
Second Round of Attacks on Baghdad Christians Prompt Call For Exodus.
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/11/10/second-round-of-attacks-on-baghdad-christians-prompt-call-for-exodus/
Still nothing from the “president”. But on a positive note, he hates that them evil joooos are building apartments in Jerusalem. Priorities.
Islamaniacs Performing Bloody Ritual In London…
(ExpressUK) — ISLAMIC fanatics are mutilating themselves at a British mosque in a bloody ceremony carried out only yards from a busy high street.
Shia Muslims use a five-bladed chain called a Zanjeer to whip their own backs and make cuts in their foreheads with razor blades in homage to their faith.
Bare-chested men were left bleeding heavily during the ritual known as Matam – self-flagellation – which a witness described as being “like a scene from a horror film”.
The Sunday Express found that up to 800 men performed the bloody ceremony in secret at the Imamia Mosque in Forest Gate, east London, last year.
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/11/10/islamaniacs-performing-bloody-ritual-in-london/#comments
Our future
(NY Post)- “Abu Hussain! Palestine loves you!!!”
This slogan, in English, appears on a poster and other products produced by the Palestinian Hamas movement and put on sale in Gaza. Yesterday, it adorned the front pages of several leading Arab dailies.
The “Abu Hussain” is President Obama. The poster pictures him wearing the signature Arab headgear, the kaffiyeh.
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/11/11/hamas-hearts-obama-oh-abu-hussain-palestine-loves-you/#respond
Odd that a islamic terrorist groups loves a “real Christian” “president. Dont you think so al-Faheed?
Chilling Report: The Legal, Political and Military Path of Shariah in the United States Today
http://bigpeace.com/jmsimpson/2010/11/12/chilling-report-the-legal-political-and-military-path-of-shariah-in-the-united-states-today/
Amazing the drones avoided this thread like an honest day’s work.
“Amazing the drones avoided this thread like an honest day’s work.”
See what I mean? Mention Pain and they would be swamping this thread but mention the dangers of Sharia in this country and silence. And they say they love this country. Total lie.
“The tragedy of Iraq’s Christians is that it does not interest anyone”
To illustrate the same point several days ago, we noted the silence of CNN’s website in the midst of another wave of jihadist attacks against Christians in Iraq. Dancing with the Stars merited a mention, along with Sarah Palin on baking cookies and other human interest pieces. Another escalation in the latest violent campaign to convert or expel non-Muslims from the Middle East? Not so much.
Of course, this has been a big year in the U.S. for pontifications on “tolerance,” in connection with the Ground Zero mosque, the Qur’an burning that wasn’t, and other issues. But the relative silence in the mainstream media on this topic demonstrates that the banner of tolerance is taken up only for fashionable groups.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/iraqi-born-christian-the-tragedy-of-iraqs-christians-is-that-it-does-not-interest-anyone.html
You drones and so called “moderates” agree or disagree? Amazing how a “Real” “Christian” like our “president” turns a blind eye to a genocide on his “fellow”Christians. Odd, isnt it al-Faheed?
“In Pakistan, some 2.8 million Christians are treated as second class citizens”
Although the laws of the dhimma mandating a second-class status for Christians are not fully in force in the Islamic world today, in many areas they remain as a cultural hangover, manifesting themselves in various ways to the detriment of equal rights for Christians and other non-Muslims. An update on this story. “Asia Bibi’s conviction is an incitement to crime, says Justice and Peace official,” from AsiaNews, November 12 (thanks to C. Cantoni):
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/in-pakistan-some-28-million-christians-are-treated-as-second-class-citizens.html
Did our “Christian” “president” mention this on his little trip? Odd that he didnt.