…and our “rulers” should be afraid…very afraid.
Heir No. One is studying the American Revolution in his History class at school, and concluded that John Adams was against suffrage for women. I know this, because he was telling me about it, which sparked one of those fun conversations.
My wife laughed, thinking that perhaps they were watching the musical 1776 in class, and he extrapolated it from the letters between John and Abigail. He told us no, that it was a different film and not a musical.
“Dad? Do you think all the Founders were against women having the vote?”
“Hmmm. I’m not sure that you are looking at the issue the same way they would have.”
“What do you mean?”
Over his shoulder, I could see that my wife had taken a heightened interest in the conversation, as the combination “Yes, what DO you mean?” And “Here-there-be-dragons.” look on her face plainly stated.
“Well, for starters, education then wasn’t like today, and in many cases women didn’t go to school as long as some men did.”
I could see my wife’s expression relax just a bit.
“And then, there is the fact that there were an awful lot of men who couldn’t vote, either.”
“Why not?”
“Because in a lot of cases, men could not vote unless they owned property.”
“Why?”
“Because then they had a stake in the outcome.”
“I don’t think that should matter. I think they should have allowed everyone to vote. But then, it might just be because I have a compassionate heart.”
“Do you think that it is a good thing for people who can’t read and who don’t know math to vote? If you can’t read, you can’t educate yourself about issues, or check on what politicians tell you. You have to take their word for it. Which means that they can lie to you, and you won’t be able to figure it out.”
“Oh…”
[Her] “This is why we keep telling you that math matters.”
“And what do you think happens when people who have less money than you do, or don’t own property, but want things from the government vote?”
“They tell government to take it from you and give it to them?”
“Exactly. And do you think the fact that they don’t own what you own and are being taxed on, and may never own it, makes it easier or harder for them to vote for government taxing you on it?
“Easier.”
“Yes…because they don’t have “skin in the game”…you might hear the President say that phrase from time to time, but like the little fat guy in “The Princess Bride” who kept saying “INCONCEIVABLE!”, it doesn’t mean what he seems to think it means. So to answer your question, I don’t believe that the Founders would have been completely opposed to women voting on the basis of them being women, but I think they would have opposed it on the basis of literacy (in some cases) and on the basis of property ownership.”
When he and the rest of his generation figure out how much the welfare state has stolen from them, I don’t think I’d want to be Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, or a “Progressive” like Hillary Clinton.
Women are different from men, even highly literate, mathematically-savvy, property-owning women. They think differently, live on a different timeline, and want different things than men. They are wonderful and men need them.
More women will choose security over freedom than men. Bad people in government will give it to them, by taking freedom from everyone. “freedom” in our current case is the ability to keep what you earn, especially when you are much harder-working and/or much smarter than most people. A reasonable response to this kind of government is to use your superior intelligence or hard-work ability to make a lot of money in a short period of time, and relax a lot. All of society suffers, while the superior person takes a bunch of unwanted vacation. He doesn’t want to work less and make less, it just doesn’t make sense to work only to fuel the enemy. See: “gone Galt”.
This started, coincidentally, in the 1920’s when women got the Federal vote. Several other bad things also happened in this era, like Federal Income Tax and the 3rd Bank of the United States (Federal Reserve Bank- 3 lies). Foreign Collectivists began to entrench themselves in American commerce, mass-media, and academia during this time. The dragons are here and have feasted on our entrails.
Good women have always had “the vote”, because they have married good men and raised good sons.
You said, “So to answer your question, I don’t believe that the Founders would have been completely opposed to women voting on the basis of them being women, but I think they would have opposed it on the basis of literacy (in some cases) and on the basis of property ownership.”
I have to disagree with you here. I think that the Founders were specifically against women voting because they were women. They understood, what we modern men refuse to understand, namely, that women consistently vote for protection, for some one, or some institution, to look after them. Almost never do they stand on principle, but they are consistently looking to protect and provide for their children and their home. Women are highly risk adverse, at least when they are thinking.
The Founders had it right. The vote should be limited to men who own property and no one else.
Hmm, maybe I’m just a nonconventional woman, but I do NOT vote for someone to look after me. I vote for liberty, justice, property rights, less government, and sane leadership. In the long run, that provides protection for my child and my home. I realize that that means I could lose everything (especially in today’s political climate) and be labeled an enemy of the gummint, but I believe in these things, and have to live what I believe.
Chipmunk, that does make you a very unconventional woman. But the vast majority of women, particularly the welfare moms, DO vote for security above all else. The idea of personal responsibility has been lost on most of today’s women.